Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Open Letter to Anna Záborská

This is a reaction to Ms Anna Záborská's open letter. Even though addressed to Oľga Pietruchová, I felt nevertheless an urge to step into the discussion as well, as I feel more than uncomfortable about the continuous superficial reasoning, which in effect sends completely wrong signals into society as a whole. As Slovak Member of the European Parliament for the Christian Democratic Movement (KDH), your 'prominent role' requires however a slightly more prudent approach to matters:

With your open letter you respond to Ms Pietruchová's article in concurrence with your earlier press statement (13th April) as published on your website, that the 'EU should not tolerate the unjust persecution of christians in some if its member states'. In this matter, even I myself have addressed to you a correspondence, to point you to the fact, that your assumptions which you state in your press statement - as both Germany and Great Britain were to persecute persons for their christian believes - are unfortunately taken out of context, and a dangerous demagogic rhetoric, which evoke unwanted discussions in society.

The mere fact, that you opened your statement by referring to the totalitarian 1950s, I was more than dismayed to read such a historical hoax. The very cases you refer to (a baptist family of Kazakh origin in Germany refusing to send their children to school, or a British hotel owner denying lodging for a homosexual couple) have in no possible sense similarities or parallels with the stalinist era persecutions, and you know that more than well. The said people in Germany e.g. would have had many more (legal) alternatives, and therefore their religious believes or practices have in no way been limited at all. 

I am more than grieved by such a cheap comparison, in which you seem to wish to appeal to the sense of pity of the masses in order for a few individuals made into 'quasi martyrs' who withheld their children from universal pedagogic standards  by refusing them to be send to school (as opposed to submitting them to uncontrollable indoctrination by individual parents) - which is a rule of law applicable to every citizen - or who discriminate and support intolerant conduct of others, just because they 'appeal to their christian convictions (as opposed to practice tolerance - just as your Bible teaches you).

Ms Záborská, keeping in mind, that our European civil society has more than a tolerant place for believers as you are, it would be civil from your side, to accept that large groups of people adhere to other convictions and that acceptable laws should be obeyed. Thus taking things completely out of context is a very dangerous game in politics. In both your press release a couple of days ago as well as your letter to Ms Pietruchová, you clearly walk on very thin ice, not only have you consciously mislead your readers (perhaps you have not properly read the German original sources. /sic/) but equally your reasoning is rather ill construed: contradicting, inconsistent and most of all incomplete. Further legal details of the mentioned cases by you as well as other ramifications of your somewhat misconception are systematically elaborated by Ms Pietruchová's open letter.

My discomfort is however from a more holistic point of view; since I see much danger in your performance: Therefore, I hope that such a resentful political faux pas, in order to - in my view - almost hysterically appeal to unhealthy underbelly sentiments of certain masses, could be refrained from in future. We may perhaps not agree on certain religious doctrines, but using half truths is first of all a bad argument. By sticking to true facts instead of false emotions it can avoid much unnecessary and painful polarisation between groups of people and avoid fueling damaging prejudices.


Although I am quite skilled in online applications, I wonder one thing; why is it, that your 13th April-statement is only published in Slovak and with absolutely no equivalent in English, German or French at all?
I must admit to say, that this reeks of pure demagogy. Slovak demagogy that is.

Thank you,
Michael Srba

7 comments:

  1. Dear Mr . Srba, your comment regarding a baptist family of Kazakh origin in Germany refusing to send their children to school is incorrect ...

    the parents were jailed not for refusing to to send their children to school, but for refusing to let them take part in a mandatory sexual education that was in contradidiction to their religious beliefs ...

    http://oldsite.alliancedefensefund.org/userdocs/WiensEmergencyOrder.pdf

    it would be good, if you got your facts straight first ...

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  2. you are not taking any comments ...?

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  3. Dear Anonymous
    (I rather appreciate if people sign off with their real name)
    Thank you for the link.

    First of all, to keep the facts straight: the matter was not merely 'limited' to the so called mandatory sexual education - as if it would be a one-off incident. From sources around the whole process, the family has been withholding their children consistently over a number of years from compulsory curricula.

    Whether sexual education per sé is against christian believes is debatable. Without delving too much on early christian - or judaic - conceptions (or misconceptions), the complaints of the family against the said school programme is, in my view, a bit overdone.
    The family would have had - over the mentioned - years the option to enlist their children to a religious school with a more 'suitable' curriculum.

    When reading the verdict of the Bundesverfassunggerichts (German Supreme Court) and other sources, I am afraid, that the matter is a bit more intricate that portrayed in Ms Zaborska's statement.
    Getting the facts straight should rather apply to Ms Zaborska.

    I do wonder, if this family would be Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist, receiving the same fate, would it equally bother you? I suspect that the appeal to christian principles is an abused alibi, but I do not wish to wager on this assumption.

    Therefore 'persecution of christians' is a misplaced statement and for a politician a faux pas. Even CSU politician Hans-Peter Uhl has aired his consent of the court's verdict. (And if my memory serves me right; the CSU is still a Christian German party)

    I remain with my opinion; I see only a dangerous hysterical demagogy in the said press release, not worthy of a western politician of the European Parliament. If not, then issue the statement in German to the German authorities. Not in exclusively Slovak; that's a cheap rhetoric.

    sincerely,
    Michael Srba

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  4. Dear Mr. Srba:
    Thank you for your reply.

    Even so, if you “rather appreciate if people sign off with their real name” you can always cancel the option to select anonymous profile for posting comments to your articles.

    Secondly, although you thanked me for the link, I doubt that you have spent any time reading it, as you are completely ignoring the information provided in the very first Article of the document – the Article I. called “Facts”. The Article specifies not only the punishment of Mr. Irene Wiens and her husband Heinrich, but also the reasons for it. So, if you’d read it, you would have found out that the parents were given jail sentences for refusing to let their children take part in 4-day sexual education lessons and in a sexually oriented stage play („Body is mine“), not for withholding them consistently over a number of years from compulsory curricula, as you and O. Pietruchová have repeatedly claimed. To save you time, let me please cite some paragraphs from this legal document:

    “Pursuant to rule 39 of the Rules of the Court on interim measures, applicants herein put forward this urgent motion regarding the imprisonment of Irene Wiens, who is currently serving a sentence of 43 days as of the submission of this request.”

    and:

    “The applicant was sentenced to a prison term on 02 July 2010 (AG Paderborn 23 OWi 82/lOb) for failure to pay a fine regarding mandatory "sexual education" classes.”

    and:

    Mr. and Mrs. Wiens objected to their children's attendance both at a mandatory stage play and for four schools days of"sexual education."' In June 2006, the stage play "Mein Korper gehort mir" [My body is mine] ….

    Mrs. Záborská, in her press release, spoke directly and unambiguously about this particular case, as it is clear from this statement of hers:

    „V Nemecku si v týchto dňoch odpykáva 43-dňový trest vo väzení matka, ktorá v roku 2006 odmietla, aby sa jej deti zúčastnili na školskom programe sexuálneho vzdelávania.“

    It is therefore obvious that when you and O. Pietruchová speak of German Baptist families rejecting the educational system for their kids, you are mixing apples and oranges. Because you are mixing Mrs. Wiens, a Baptist woman who refused to let her kids take part in a 4-day sexual education course, and the Baptist families withholding their children consistently over a number of years from compulsory curricula.

    Concerning the rest of your post, please be assured that it will be my pleasure to discuss also the other issues you’ve brought up, whether you consider them debatable or not, but not before your mistake of misinterpreting Mrs. Záborská’s statement regarding the above German woman is clarified.

    Sincerely,

    Anonymous

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  5. Dear Anonymous,

    Yes I have read your link. Hope you read the German documents as well.

    In principle, I will not go into any further debates with people, who hide behind anonymous identities; if you stand for your 'noble' principles you could openly reveal your identity or I will regard this as a coward attempt of agitation.

    thank you
    MS

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  6. Dear Mr. Srba,

    it was not me who disputed your biased post. Nevertheless, I would hardly resist to comment on it - but Anonymous reader did it for me. And I am slightly dissapointed by your reaction. At first, you chose to respond in lenght and off the point, then suddendly you refused to discuss. To invent a principle of not going into debates with anonymous readers in a middle of a debate is as such very coward way of debating. The more so that in your first reply you only mention your preference towards the use of real names in a discussion...

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  7. Dear Mr Stach,

    thank you for your comment, and my apology for the belated response, as I am currently dealing with pressing deadlines.

    I think, the debate on anonymity is slightly off topic as well: The option is simply open, to give non registered readers a chance to comment. And - if of any consequence - I do not mind giving a reaction, lengthy or not. Yet anonymous (and even somewhat abusive) name-calling or repetitive reiteration of statements is not a way to discuss matters and definitively not exactly my hobby to respond to.

    Ms Záborská is a public figure, and thus her statements should be carefully weighed.
    My whole point was; that if there would be a clear case, then Ms Záborská should have chosen a communicating with the concrete member states. This has obviously not happened (and not only based on a Slovak-only version on her web-site). As from a political point of view, I cannot consent such a behaviour.

    The other matters (upt to legal details) have been discussed into dreary length and details on Ms Pietruchová's blog.

    Whether you regard my point of view off the point, which is obviously your right, is given by the difference in the interpretation of facts (or the acceptance of which facts are deemed to be relevant). In both our (opposite) convictions, the yes-no debate would be without end.

    Perhaps, to moderate the matter a bit; I do know the 'western' legal systems (not purely theoretically), and will not want to say, that any individual miscarriage of justice would be impossible.
    Therefore; In the event (and only hypothetically) that this would indeed apply to this case - still a 'systematic and unjustified persecution of christians' is an utterly misplaced statement.

    And that's my whole point.

    best regards,
    Michael S.

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